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	<title>Comments on: Which Do You Believe?</title>
	<link>http://www.monakhos.com/2006/05/08/which-do-you-believe/</link>
	<description>Reflections on Mysticism and the East</description>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://www.monakhos.com/2006/05/08/which-do-you-believe/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 04:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spike - This is true. The only difference with Christianity is that it is a label for a core belief system. If it was simply another word that had some baggage, I wouldn't hesitate to keep the term; however, since it is applied to such a large part of what I believe, sometimes I have a hard time justifying the misuse over the years. These comments were made when I was quite frustrated with the whole system, hence the reason for the extremity of what I wrote.

Thanks for your visit and your comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spike - This is true. The only difference with Christianity is that it is a label for a core belief system. If it was simply another word that had some baggage, I wouldn&#8217;t hesitate to keep the term; however, since it is applied to such a large part of what I believe, sometimes I have a hard time justifying the misuse over the years. These comments were made when I was quite frustrated with the whole system, hence the reason for the extremity of what I wrote.</p>
<p>Thanks for your visit and your comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Spike</title>
		<link>http://www.monakhos.com/2006/05/08/which-do-you-believe/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Spike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 19:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Christian" is no more "Christ-follower" than "reptilian" is "reptile-follower" or "New Orleanian" is New Orleans-follower".  I think "Christian" is Christ-LIKE" and/or "FROM-Christ", which, I think cannot be applied to most religions, even some actions undertaken in the same name.

Abraham Lincoln asked, "if you call a goat's tail, "a leg", how many legs will a goat have?  "Four", he said.  "Just because you call a goat's tail a leg, doesn't make it one."  You, me, themselves or others may some/all reliegions Christian-- that is not the determining factor.  Are they from-Christ and/or like-Christ?  Beats me.

Shall we abandon all words that get burdened with the baggage of tradition, misuse, error?  If so, I sense our vocabularies getting smaller and smaller.  As a lover of words and their ability to express our thoughts and feelings, I think I shall "not go gently into that good night".  I fight for things that have value.  Words, all of them, "Christian" included, have value as enabling better expression, and they are all worth the trouble of reclaiming when abused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Christian&#8221; is no more &#8220;Christ-follower&#8221; than &#8220;reptilian&#8221; is &#8220;reptile-follower&#8221; or &#8220;New Orleanian&#8221; is New Orleans-follower&#8221;.  I think &#8220;Christian&#8221; is Christ-LIKE&#8221; and/or &#8220;FROM-Christ&#8221;, which, I think cannot be applied to most religions, even some actions undertaken in the same name.</p>
<p>Abraham Lincoln asked, &#8220;if you call a goat&#8217;s tail, &#8220;a leg&#8221;, how many legs will a goat have?  &#8220;Four&#8221;, he said.  &#8220;Just because you call a goat&#8217;s tail a leg, doesn&#8217;t make it one.&#8221;  You, me, themselves or others may some/all reliegions Christian&#8211; that is not the determining factor.  Are they from-Christ and/or like-Christ?  Beats me.</p>
<p>Shall we abandon all words that get burdened with the baggage of tradition, misuse, error?  If so, I sense our vocabularies getting smaller and smaller.  As a lover of words and their ability to express our thoughts and feelings, I think I shall &#8220;not go gently into that good night&#8221;.  I fight for things that have value.  Words, all of them, &#8220;Christian&#8221; included, have value as enabling better expression, and they are all worth the trouble of reclaiming when abused.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://www.monakhos.com/2006/05/08/which-do-you-believe/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 15:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.monakhos.com/2006/05/08/which-do-you-believe/#comment-33</guid>
		<description>I agree, though I think I disagree with the usage of the term Christianity. It's just had so much baggage attached to it with tradition, I don't think it's worth the term to go through the pains of attempting to reclaim it.

Thanks for your comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, though I think I disagree with the usage of the term Christianity. It&#8217;s just had so much baggage attached to it with tradition, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s worth the term to go through the pains of attempting to reclaim it.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments!</p>
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		<title>By: isaiah</title>
		<link>http://www.monakhos.com/2006/05/08/which-do-you-believe/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>isaiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 13:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.monakhos.com/2006/05/08/which-do-you-believe/#comment-31</guid>
		<description>"'Christ-followers' can belong to just about any religion I think."

Yes.  The more I learn of other religions, especially eastern, the more clear Christianity become to me....the more clear I see Jesus.

Jesus also said, "Deny thyself."  Another universal spiritual principle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8216;Christ-followers&#8217; can belong to just about any religion I think.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes.  The more I learn of other religions, especially eastern, the more clear Christianity become to me&#8230;.the more clear I see Jesus.</p>
<p>Jesus also said, &#8220;Deny thyself.&#8221;  Another universal spiritual principle.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://www.monakhos.com/2006/05/08/which-do-you-believe/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 00:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.monakhos.com/2006/04/20/what-would-jesus-say/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Love God and love others&lt;/a&gt;. Take care of widows and orphans. This was Jesus' description of true religion in general. Christianity technically wasn't really founded until after Jesus died, so I consider his teachings to concern a more general practice, and I would say that this would be the definition of "Christ-followers" but not of the Christian religion. I would not call what Christianity today (at least the average version practiced by the Christian population) a true religion (it is a religion, but not a "true religion" as Jesus defined it.)

"Christ-followers" can belong to just about any religion I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.monakhos.com/2006/04/20/what-would-jesus-say/" rel="nofollow">Love God and love others</a>. Take care of widows and orphans. This was Jesus&#8217; description of true religion in general. Christianity technically wasn&#8217;t really founded until after Jesus died, so I consider his teachings to concern a more general practice, and I would say that this would be the definition of &#8220;Christ-followers&#8221; but not of the Christian religion. I would not call what Christianity today (at least the average version practiced by the Christian population) a true religion (it is a religion, but not a &#8220;true religion&#8221; as Jesus defined it.)</p>
<p>&#8220;Christ-followers&#8221; can belong to just about any religion I think.</p>
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		<title>By: isaiah</title>
		<link>http://www.monakhos.com/2006/05/08/which-do-you-believe/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>isaiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 00:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What did Jesus say it meant to be a Christian?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did Jesus say it meant to be a Christian?</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://www.monakhos.com/2006/05/08/which-do-you-believe/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 18:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.monakhos.com/2006/05/08/which-do-you-believe/#comment-28</guid>
		<description>I'm not sure.  If one did not believe any of the statements he or she would definitely not be a Christian in the classical sense, but could be if the person totally redefined for themselves what Christianity meant. But in that case it would be one person's redefinition (or a few people's) against millions of peoples fundamentalist beliefs. 

I guess this brings up the question of what does the term Christian mean. I personally steer away from labelling myself as Christian (even though in many regards I am) because I would rather not label myself as such than attempt to rebrand a term that has had case after case of misuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure.  If one did not believe any of the statements he or she would definitely not be a Christian in the classical sense, but could be if the person totally redefined for themselves what Christianity meant. But in that case it would be one person&#8217;s redefinition (or a few people&#8217;s) against millions of peoples fundamentalist beliefs. </p>
<p>I guess this brings up the question of what does the term Christian mean. I personally steer away from labelling myself as Christian (even though in many regards I am) because I would rather not label myself as such than attempt to rebrand a term that has had case after case of misuse.</p>
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		<title>By: isaiah</title>
		<link>http://www.monakhos.com/2006/05/08/which-do-you-believe/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>isaiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 17:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting-

Is it possible to be a Christian and not believe any of the statements?</description>
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<p>Is it possible to be a Christian and not believe any of the statements?</p>
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